I don't know if you guys feel this way but...

[Perfblue15]

Yeah I think we all can agree that LS engines are nasty but for the love of God and originality stop swapping them into Mustangs and Nissans lol

Right. Im so tired of ls powered fox bodies. My favorite thing to do at the track is break off ls cars in my 4v gt lol. But i do agree ls motors are bad ass bamg for the buck engines

 

[BrokenSVT]

In case anyone forgot it, or never saw it in the first place:

http://www.superstreetonline.com/cars/new-car-reviews/0404scc-ati-terminator-ford-focus/

 

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Personally LS swaps are pretty useless unless you only want low power (400-500whp). They are inefficient, make power in the wrong places and need everything overbuilt to make any decent power/sense.

RB26dett, stay away as well, they need to be built to make decent power (500whp+) and are still only a 2.6 so spooling a big turbo is still tough. They aren't too laggy, but if you are looking to be in the 800-1000whp range they are on the small side.

that leaves the 2jz and the f22c, pretty much the only motors worth swapping into cars, both will make insane levels of power on a stock shortblock (or longblock for the 2jz)

 

[irladyki113r]

Personally LS swaps are pretty useless unless you only want low power (400-500whp). They are inefficient, make power in the wrong places and need everything overbuilt to make any decent power/sense.

RB26dett, stay away as well, they need to be built to make decent power (500whp+) and are still only a 2.6 so spooling a big turbo is still tough. They aren't too laggy, but if you are looking to be in the 800-1000whp range they are on the small side.

that leaves the 2jz and the f22c, pretty much the only motors worth swapping into cars, both will make insane levels of power on a stock shortblock (or longblock for the 2jz)

And rb26 is bigger than a f22 so that doesn't make any sense...if you have thousands of dollars to do a swap what's another $1000 to make something more unique? If you wanna make stupid HP you'd run a Ford Racing block or a sbf Dart block and make 1500+ HP. That would be way cheaper than any JDM swap. I just want a RB swap bc I love the sound of them.

 

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And rb26 is bigger than a f22 so that doesn't make any sense...if you have thousands of dollars to do a swap what's another $1000 to make something more unique? If you wanna make stupid HP you'd run a Ford Racing block or a sbf Dart block and make 1500+ HP. That would be way cheaper than any JDM swap. I just want a RB swap bc I love the sound of them.

Yes, but stock engine the f22c can run over 700whp, and 2jz can run over 1100whp. Still perfectly streetable and reliable.
The rb sounds great with a good manifold but you have to get it just right. It's just unfortunate that they can't make power stock, so the costs are much higher initially at least.

Here is some 4-digit rb26 porn for you

Any ohv ford or chevy motor at 1000hp+ will be horrible on a street car which is why a 2jz for a big car or an f22c for a small car work so well.

 

[stuntdoogie]

I agree with you but stuff like that will get your car keyed.

 

[irladyki113r]

Yes, but stock engine the f22c can run over 700whp, and 2jz can run over 1100whp. Still perfectly streetable and reliable.
The rb sounds great with a good manifold but you have to get it just right. It's just unfortunate that they can't make power stock, so the costs are much higher initially at least.

Here is some 4-digit rb26 porn for you

Any ohv ford or chevy motor at 1000hp+ will be horrible on a street car which is why a 2jz for a big car or an f22c for a small car work so well.

I think your facts are a little off but V8 cars would be way more street able bc they have low end torque where as the f22 and 2jz would have non until turbos start to spool. Nobody is going to risk blowing a motor by pushing the bottom end to its limits. Those engines, in stock form, wouldn't last very long at those power levels.

 

[irladyki113r]

I agree with you but stuff like that will get your car keyed.

Bc Chevy guys are butt hurt cry babies lol

 

[RAAMaudio]

I love LS swaps into the right vehicle.

You can make yourself believe anything you wish to imagine but the truth is they are the best for the vast majority of swaps, tiny, light, easy to make great power on pump gas, can be built to what I personally consider stupid power that nobody can really justify other than mostly done for bragging rights......

I would of course not swap one into a Ford, or Dodge, etc but Miata, E36, which I have had the parts and cars here to do and the last project I had left to sell off, 53" Studevette, C5 Z06 chassis with forged and blown LS with first year Studebaker body, nuts pro tour build.....just waiting for the buyer to come and get it. I decided to retired and go full time RVing instead of investing the thousands of hours it was going to take to build.

Do whatever swap you want, been there done that swap, innovative not done before, low cost, low weight, great power, fully built, highly strung, fine by me and I think they are all cool. For thousands of us the LS swap just happens to be the best all around solution for those that are into the end results more than the bragging rights or just personal satisfaction

(I have been thinking about what I could put a Coyote in though, of course!)

Rick

 

[Plainrt]

Sticker is lame. I have respect for all forms of cars and in many cases I think the ls swap is a great option.

 

[irladyki113r]

Its all just fun and games. Nothing really against GM. I'm just bullying the bullies so to speak, since they like to talk a big game. I think theyre a awesome powerplant. Just wanna see something different for a change.

 

[RAAMaudio]

OK, I may of over reacted a bit, at least it was just on the forum and not to mean but there are those out there with little or no humor that might take more serious offense to your sticker. I like to fly under the radar as in quiet exhaust, lower key exterior mods.

I love modding cars and seeing them modded, just not certain things some do

 

[irladyki113r]

OK, I may of over reacted a bit, at least it was just on the forum and not to mean but there are those out there with little or no humor that might take more serious offense to your sticker. I like to fly under the radar as in quiet exhaust, lower key exterior mods.

I love modding cars and seeing them modded, just not certain things some do

I'm ridiculously sarcastic lol it comes off as being rude but its just me playing. I'm more into unique builds with a lot of personality and stuff. So I'm completely opposite of these guys that wanna go fast for cheap and dog everybody else for not running a LS or 2J or whatever. It ruins the passion of motorsports.

 

[RAAMaudio]

I am a bit different as well.

I build almost all my projects to be a bit understated in appearance, handling, braking far more important than raw power. Then dial up the power to where it is a well balanced package and maybe a bit extra and have beaten hundreds of higher powered cars that focused so much on power the rest of the car did not work well or could use the power properly. I am into road course and used to be into auto cross and thus do not have a need for huge power like in drag racing and find no real need for it on the street where I am pretty tame 99.99% of the time. (after decades of fast but almost always away from the public highway, dirt, gravel and snow fun)

In case you have not seen it, first page has a very long build list, many mods are one off DIY

http://www.fiestastforum.com/forum/threads/1836-RAAMaudio-ST-street-track-dog-hauler-grocery-getter-ultra-low-weight-audio

 

[irladyki113r]

Hell yeah that's fantastic. Idk if I want to start modding my car or pay it off and use as a nice trade or down payment on something already built like a Terminator or stroked Fox. Hell even a new Focus RS.

 

[RAAMaudio]

I have built so many cars and then only used them a bit then parted out and started another project, far to many. Great fun but now I am settling down to one actually less crazy or costly project and it had to fit in the trailer and fit two big doggies as well as be a grocery getter, site seer and pretty fast track car, which it is already but needs more power, why the EFR turbo

(I will be able to sell the manifold, DP and possibly Comp outlet pipe if needed, could sell whole systems but the rest of the parts are easy to source and being mobile easier to manage. It will be much less costly than ordering a kit from the UK)

 

[lessard.dcj]

Um would love to do a 2jz or vr6 swapped miata

 

[RAAMaudio]

I talked to somebody recently that is building a V6 LS type track car, I do not even know what the engine designations are but it made sense as the V6 is even lighter and can the weight further back and still make more than enough NA power on pump gas, seems like a pretty smart move to me.

 

[irladyki113r]

That new 2.7 ecoboost looks like it would be a monster for a project build. Like in a fox or something.

 

[Sourskittle]

The 3.5L has made like 380whp and 500+ torque at the wheels with just a tune, intercooler, intake, and catback.

We actually build upgraded stock ecoboost 3.5L turbos if anyone is interested. But of course, it requires a custom tune. If not, just like the fiesta st, it will shut the throttle to stop from making too much power.

I think the 2.7L may have an iron block, but I think its that new style alum block that is girdled by high-graphite iron which is light.

Imagine even a focus ST motor making 400tq and 400whp with an all alum 4 banger in a fox, lol. The 2.3L would just be that much nastier.