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installing Colby Transmission soon. Any suggestions with what else to consider?

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Hi getting this trans built after lost my reverse gear few months ago. Decided to get a Colby trans build with WPC treatment and Wavetrac lsd. Got a new oem trans to start with. Took a few months but hopefully trans is shipping out this Monday. Was recommended by Colby to go with DCT fluid and going with Amsoil DTC. Hope it'll work good in high temp track days in CA around 90f

Going to install said parts
-Getting new oem single mass flywheel and ST200 clutch (replacing my existing Xclutch), as I'm more cautious of dual mass being a risk factor for reliability (maybe paranoid here). As long as I don't get over a s280 w/ 91oct, full bolts including Cobb I think I should be fine.
-Oem throw out bearing.

UNRELATED JUNK
-Spoon rigid collars (like them a lot on my 10th gen civic Si), since tranny gas to be dropped, might as well.
-Pro Alloy oil pan baffle
-Cobb CF intake (already have ST200 box, so this is purely for recreational bling)
-Extended ARP 3.25" brake studs, Stoptech slotted rotors, G-Loc R8 pads (replacing Hawk DTC-30s all around), Endless rf650 fluid.
(already have ss brake lines)
-Euro Hella headlights with halogen bulbs
-Diode Dynamics foglights.
-Recaro SR-7 KK100 driver seat

Car is pretty much already full bolt on with Cobb catted downpipe, fmic w/ piping, upgraded radiator, oil cooler. Pretty happy with existing suspension. Not sure if there's anything else to throw on there.

I do have an S280 turbo, but not really sure it's a good idea to throw it on right now, before seeing how the transmission operates.
 


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are there additional parts to address reliability of the s280? I hope it doesnt create needless added heat that might melt the wiring.

was interested in the whoosh cermanic coated exhaust manifold but its out of stock with an Aug eta
 


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are there additional parts to address reliability of the s280? I hope it doesnt create needless added heat that might melt the wiring.

was interested in the whoosh cermanic coated exhaust manifold but its out of stock with an Aug eta
Shouldn’t be a problem, you can retain the stock heat shield with it unless you do a tubular manifold which I would advise against unless you’re having a custom heat shield made. My tubular manifold melted the wire loom. I was lucky to catch it before any actual wires were damaged.
 


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Hi getting this trans built after lost my reverse gear few months ago. Decided to get a Colby trans build with WPC treatment and Wavetrac lsd. Got a new oem trans to start with. Took a few months but hopefully trans is shipping out this Monday. Was recommended by Colby to go with DCT fluid and going with Amsoil DTC. Hope it'll work good in high temp track days in CA around 90f

Going to install said parts
-Getting new oem single mass flywheel and ST200 clutch (replacing my existing Xclutch), as I'm more cautious of dual mass being a risk factor for reliability (maybe paranoid here). As long as I don't get over a s280 w/ 91oct, full bolts including Cobb I think I should be fine.
-Oem throw out bearing.
I wonder if it is because of the WPC treatment on the gears that they suggest (or require for any warranty??) the DCT fluid, even in open track use?

Did they give any rationale for that at all?

Also, isn't a DMF required for a stock/factory type ST200 clutch assembly?

Are you still on factory front brake calipers, or an aftermarket BBK?
 


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I definitely informed Colby that I do intend the trans for track use in 20-30 min hpde around 90ish f temps. No real rationale interestingly and I think it may be for the WPC would be my suspicion as well. Even sent a link for the Amsoil DTCF that I was going to get and he confirmed.

He did not recommend the motul gear 300 that I usually use.

No BBK. Just factory front although w/ diff pads, rotors and endless fluid. I like enkei rpf1s but where they fall short is poor caliper clearance.
 


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You're saying you feel like the DMF is worse for reliability? I've always been under the impression as long as you pair it up right it'll be fine: SMF + Sprung Clutch / DMF + Unsprung Clutch.
 


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I want to keep it as oem as possible to increase reliability. So not saying DMF is worse for reliability, as much as SMF gives me more peace of mind.

I thought it unusual for my trans to give out around 20k miles w/ pretty good aftermarket sprung clutch (xclutch) and single mass flywheel. in my case reverse gear seemed broken. I did track my car 15 times or so in warmer CA climates.

again I did mention it may be paranoid of me to go back to oem dual mass flywheel (vs aftermarket single mass). hence other choices like spending extra with Clarke to go with new oem trans instead of using my old trans or another used transmission.

I was going to replace the clutch anyways, didnt see myself going high power figures since I have no interest going beyond 91 oct pump gas (guessing will get around 250-270ish on dynojet dyno w s280).

not criticizing aftermarket clutches w/ dual mass flywheel. have similar setup in my evo x w dual plate exedy clutch. with my setups, maximizing reliability, however paranoid, has always been my approach.
 


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Going to install said parts
-Getting new oem single mass flywheel and ST200 clutch (replacing my existing Xclutch), as I'm more cautious of dual mass being a risk factor for reliability (maybe paranoid here).
I'm just really confused. You're getting a single mass flywheel installed because you feel like dual mass flywheels may be a factor for reliability? If you're concerned with reliability you should go with the OEM DMF and unsprung clutch. Going with a SMF and unsprung clutch is going to cause all the shock to be absorbed by your transmission. You need either the flywheel or the clutch to have some give
 


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No worries I was just really confused with your typos lol. Honestly I'll tell you you're right for staying paranoid if reliability is concerning. I'm trying to tell myself I did the right thing going with whoosh Motorsports SMF kit on my daily driver.... It does have a spring clutch
 


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I like the response from a single mass so I was thinking of switching when my clutch decides goes, I'm teaching my nieces how to drive manual in it😬
 


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yeah totally understood. for some odd reason I keep getting confused with the oem flywheel being SMF instead DMF.
 




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