"The Smoking Tire" - VP100 ProTune

[re-rx7]

Dyno jets don't always produce higher numbers than mustang dynos. Yes you would think that they would, but it's not always the case. It all depends on the calibration and settings.
Just like all things performance and dyno related...I could care less really about the numbers that were produced on TST FiST. I do consider the gains and that's about it. Their stock and OTS Stg numbers were higher than others that I've seen with the same mods...including mine. So, I would expect the same with the VP100 protune.

Gd post.

 

[JPGC]

Gd post.

Thanks, lol and I would love to get a LEGIT datalog from them from a street pull and be able to plug it into v-dyno....it would end all arguments here. I highly doubt that we will see that happen ;-)

 

[DHM1]

Dyno jets don't always produce higher numbers than mustang dynos. Yes you would think that they would, but it's not always the case. It all depends on the calibration and settings.
Just like all things performance and dyno related...I could care less really about the numbers that were produced on TST FiST. I do consider the gains and that's about it. Their stock and OTS Stg numbers were higher than others that I've seen with the same mods...including mine. So, I would expect the same with the VP100 protune.

Exactly who care about the number it about gains what did you start with and what you have now.

 

[DHM1]

Oh god. Here we go with the credentials. So this car of cobba should dyno around 250-260 whp on a dynojet? Because Cobb uses a mustang dyno. A fist got tuned at the Plano location which I'm close to and guess what it made after tuning on 93 with full boltons it made 205 on a mustang dyno. Also this is through a CATTED dp. All they have to do to shut us all up is post a log or some qtr mile mph like they said they were going to do.

Well Brandon calling people and companies out on forums and facebook do not ever get you any were. I have nothing to hide just want to teach people facts and not spread misinformation because of somethings i cant understand. I agree that a datalog or a drag pass would be awesome but it is not mine or your place to belittle some one because you cant comprehend why they have 20 more HP than the next guy. Its all about gains not numbers. I dont tell people my car made this or that its not in my sig that it VD'ed this nope my car ran that et and thats it. Until its on a dyno or goes down the track again it does not matter. Even when it goes on a dyno it will be stock them i will post gains not peak numbers. I am not sure what i did to you to get called a fool but please think twice before trying to offend people because you dont know how something worked.

Russ

 

[me32]

Let the butt hurt flow. Not sure why some are so mad. I dont see why these gains are not possible with the mods an a protune with race gas. Even atp on a stock turbo were making some great gains on race gas.

 

[RAAMaudio]

I was a bit of a none believer as well but when somebody that really knows what they are talking about explains why it is possible I listen. I would love to see something backing it up but in the mean time I am just going to wait and see what happens.

Thanks for the very informative posts drag4life723, we need real knowledge on this forum.

Rick

 

[re-rx7]

Let the butt hurt flow. Not sure why some are so mad. I dont see why these gains are not possible with the mods an a protune with race gas. Even atp on a stock turbo were making some great gains on race gas.

That's because you don't understand cfm and math.

 

[DHM1]

That's because you don't understand cfm and math.

Please explain. Myself and everyone else are open ears and not belittling you or calling you a lair. Just like my self i want the math and truth.

Thank you

Russ

 

[RAAMaudio]

One explains why he believes it is possible, backed up by vast experience.

One says BS, show us how you came to this, credentials do mean something as well, please

 

[koozy]

would someone please let razorlab back into the conversions

 

[re-rx7]

would someone please let razorlab back into the conversions

Please

 

[re-rx7]

Please explain. Myself and everyone else are open ears and not belittling you or calling you a lair. Just like my self i want the math and truth.

Thank you

Russ

Do the math.
http://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/CFM.html

 

[JPGC]

"The Smoking Tire" - VP100 ProTune @ Cobb SoCal

How about we just agree to disagree none of us were there and like I said before, the gains from baseline are what is important. Do I think their numbers are high, yes..yes I do. Does it bother me that they got 10+ whp higher than me with the same/ similar mods and tune on their OTS Stg 3? Yes, a little. Do I understand dyno differences and sales techniques/ advertising the best possible outcome? Yes, I do. Read between the lines.
None of the above makes me want to get in a who's who internet argument.

 

[re-rx7]

How about we just agree to disagree none of us were there and like I said before, the gains from baseline are what is important. Do I think their numbers are high, yes..yes I do. Does it bother me that they got 10+ whp higher than me with the same/ similar mods on their Stg 3? Yes, a little. Do I understand dyno differences and sales techniques/ advertising the best possible outcome? Yes, I do. Read between the lines.
None of the above makes me want to get in a who's who internet argument.

Once again great post

 

[DHM1]

would someone please let razorlab back into the conversions

If you read his post on the other forum about this subject he just agrees that the gains are good and close to his. Proving the point that it is plenty possible.

 

[JPGC]

I looked at razorlab's profile earlier today and it no longer said banned, just guest. I think that he has quit all FiST forums though, at least that is what he said he was gonna do on another forum.

 

[DHM1]

Do the math.
http://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/CFM.html

Posting this just shows you dont know were im getting at at all. Whats the VE of this engine? This calculator proves that the fact im trying to make! VE changes with back pressure, inlet pressure, and pressure drop. So one persons down pipe, exhaust, intake, intercooler efficieny, and intake play a factor in this CFM calculator! When people just sit there and say the sky cant be blue i just pray the open there eyes one day and see. Stop being so rude myself and others are just trying to help.

Russ

 

[re-rx7]

The cfm of the turbo does not change.

 

[me32]

Please explain. Myself and everyone else are open ears and not belittling you or calling you a lair. Just like my self i want the math and truth.

Thank you

Russ

Some will always be non believers

 

[DHM1]

The cfm of the turbo does not change.

how dose it not? Turbo is the most dynamic thing on a car? It does not pump x CFM all the time. If you have a air pump that is controlled via exhaust but the exhaust flow changes the rpm will change thus changing the rpm of the turbo. that same air pump if it is hold x rpm but you have a 1in restriction on it it will not out put the same cfm as if it had a 2in restriction. The compressor wheel on our cars run in excess of 200k rpm stock that will cut air up bad if there is a out put restriction if you open up the restriction it will flow more air until the turbo reaches its max cfm.

Russ