MP215 - Impressions, Feedback, and Questions

[Jking]

The thought of paying monthly on my car while it is down with a blown engine that I don't have a spare $5k plus laying around for doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

Yea, I don't make a ton of money and the thought of an eight mile bike ride to and from work every day was my motivating factor. This was mentioned in another post, but you might also consider having the short shift kit done at the same time while they have the air box off. It is warranty friendly as well.

 

[Dsquared46]

Is this kit worth it also can anyone tell me how much to get it installed at Ford Dealer thanks

My dealership wouldn't do the install for me and referred me to one that was 42 miles away that specialized in Ford Racing. At first they told me it was $200 and would take 2.5 hrs. When the Mechanic saw the aluminum air box they wanted $315 and 4.5 hrs. Drove home pissed and contacted the guys from Mountune who stated that it should only take 35-40 mins as they do them all the time. They also install it for free if you're in California. It was suggested that I do the install myself and have someone with an ASE certification sign off on it. That's exactly what I did! It took 45 mins to complete on a 45 degree day, in my driveway. Saved myself any BS dealership install fees and warranty is covered. Shhhh! Don't tell anyone.

 

[IrishST]

Yea, I don't make a ton of money and the thought of an eight mile bike ride to and from work every day was my motivating factor. This was mentioned in another post, but you might also consider having the short shift kit done at the same time while they have the air box off. It is warranty friendly as well.

If I was to go with the short shift adapter ID probably just do it myself. There is pretty much nothing warranty wise it could impact because all it does is reduce shift throw. Also, if my transmission started acting up I'd just take it off before bringing it in. That said, I had the Cobb short shifter adapter on my Focus ST when I had it and while I liked the shorter gear throw i didn't enjoy the clunky feeling or the excessive weight which actually made my shifts feel slower so I don't think I'm doing it with this car. Probably going to do a knob and that's it.

 

[Mosquito1177]

Mp 215

Has anyone run 1/4 mile with the Mp 215 set up

 

[IrishST]

Has anyone run 1/4 mile with the Mp 215 set up

They claim it drops the 0-60 by a solid 0.5 seconds so I would imagine it does roughly the same +/- 0.1 or so in the quarter.

 

[DaveG99]

mp215. is it 93oct?

Is the mountune 215 tune based off using 93 octane?

 

[dyn085]

Is the mountune 215 tune based off using 93 octane?

91, iirc.

 

[DaveG99]

Let's say you have a mp215 and your warranty ends and you want to add more power at that point. I know there is a mp230 but are there custom tunes you can get from mountune as well?

Also once you go mountune can you unmarrybit and sell it if you want to change to the regular cobb AP and use another tuner?

 

[marc89gti]

Let's say you have a mp215 and your warranty ends and you want to add more power at that point. I know there is a mp230 but are there custom tunes you can get from mountune as well?

Also once you go mountune can you unmarrybit and sell it if you want to change to the regular cobb AP and use another tuner?

Besides MR230 there are no other tunes from mountune. One thing to note MP215 is tied to your car forever meaning it will only work with your vin number. You can't yourself unmarry it from your car, you would have get a Ford dealer load the stock tune but the the mTune would only work with your car. From what I've read the MP215 tune is not transferable to another car. So if wanted to go the COBB route would have to get a Ford dealer to load stock tune, then you could go crazy with the COBB tuner. From what I've read and have experienced this myself when driving my friends FiST with a COBB stage one tune it's rather underwhelming. Maybe stage two or three is better but involves more hardware and money. I've had MP215 for a couple of years and while it is expensive the performance increase is very noticeable over the stock car. The other nice thing is they unlock more boost in 1st and 2nd gears but not all the boost like COBB. Over time will end up damaging front axles with all that front wheel spin from too much torque and boost.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

If it was me I'd ditch the mountune AP ....get a Cobb and go to stratified Tuning and talk to them. Worth every penny imo....all I have is a RMM...velossatech snorkel. ..green high flow and a Damond OCC. It is great thing to drive I run the 93 tune and have a 91 tune from stratified. Both are well thought out and if you upgrade anything they will retuned for a cheap fee.

 

[marc89gti]

For me warranty was an important factor, I've bought the complete mountune intercooler kit with charge pipes. Hardware wise I'm going towards MR230 just need down pipe, cat back exhaust and pay upgrade fee to MR230

 

[Zormecteon]

Let's say you have a mp215 and your warranty ends and you want to add more power at that point. I know there is a mp230 but are there custom tunes you can get from mountune as well?

Also once you go mountune can you unmarrybit and sell it if you want to change to the regular cobb AP and use another tuner?

Another person has answered all this (correctly I believe) but I wanted to add...

Part of the reason I went with the mp215 besides the warranty thing is my thinking that if it has been proven to Ford that it will not adversely affect the car enough to affect the warranty, then there should be no LONG TERM detriment to its usage. I plan to be driving the car for another 15 years or more. I'm thinking part of the reason that Ford limits the boost (thus the power) in the lower two gears is because it puts undue strain on the rest of the "power delivery system" (u-joints, axles, tranny) as well as to limit torque steer. I'd be willing to wager that most of those who go with the COBB AP don't plan to own the car for much longer than the 5 to 7 years that it is typically financed and are more interested in getting the most out of the car rather than its LONG TERM durability.

 

[SoyFiesta]

How does the MP215 compare to the Accessport from Mountune with the bespoke calibration and air filter? On their website it shows a very small difference in HP and Torque while costing half the price and having a 45 day window to have the tune revised

 

[IrishST]

The MP215 is a fixed calibration and can't be modified. It uses a Cobb AP, but it is locked to the tune and you can't swap tunes at a whim, you get the MP215 tune and that's it, plus once it's on the cat's ECU you can't go back to stock without going to the dealer and having them reset things. With the Mountune branded Cobb AP you get a normal Cobb AP, but in addition to the Cobb OTS tunes you also get a tune that is done by Mountune with 45 days of support for tweaks based on your data logs.

The Mountune AP costs the same as the Cobb AP and comes with all the same OTS maps, plus a 'custom' Mountune map that they will revise for you so it is the better buy if you're going to go with an normal, standalone AP rather than buying from Cobb where you don't get retune work from Randy. The MP215 is very static and it is what it is, no changes unless you buy the upgrade to the MR230 kit and you can't use the AP it includes for other people's OTS stuff, nor can you reflash back to stock or such things. The benefit is that it still gives pretty solid performance and you get to keep your warranty intact as long as you follow the rules and have it all installed by a Ford dealer, or Mountune themselves if you're lucky enough to live close to their US shop.

TL;DR - Go with Mountune's AP over Cobbs because of tune support plus you don't lose anything because you can still use Cobb's OTS stuff and other OTS tunes. Go with the MP215 if you don't have a desire to constantly change and tweak things and you want to keep your warranty.

 

[ZREXER]

I have had my MP 215 installed for a couple of weeks along with the Mountune induction hose and I have to say I am pretty happy with the overall package.
It is a nice bump in power, but the car feels very balanced and with the torque limiting still intact in the lower gears the tires don't break loose easily in lower gears in the corners.
Probably less stress on the drive train as well.
In the past I have modded a few vehicles to the point where they cease to be reliable daily drivers and have suffered 'mod remorse' as a result.
I know that this car can be tweaked considerably over where the MP 215 kit puts it and still be reliable, but if I wanted a much faster car I would have bought something else.
So for me future mods will be handling related versus more power mods.

 

[Quisp]

I have had my MP 215 installed for a couple of weeks along with the Mountune induction hose and I have to say I am pretty happy with the overall package.
It is a nice bump in power, but the car feels very balanced and with the torque limiting still intact in the lower gears the tires don't break loose easily in lower gears in the corners.
Probably less stress on the drive train as well.
In the past I have modded a few vehicles to the point where they cease to be reliable daily drivers and have suffered 'mod remorse' as a result.
I know that this car can be tweaked considerably over where the MP 215 kit puts it and still be reliable, but if I wanted a much faster car I would have bought something else.
So for me future mods will be handling related versus more power mods.

ZREXER is that a motorcycle reference?

 

[ZREXER]

ZREXER is that a motorcycle reference?

Yes, I had a Kawasaki ZRX 1200 R at one time, followed by a ZX 14R which was modded.
It's 0 to 100 MPH performance in under 5 seconds and low 9 second 1/4 mile times really makes all cars seem pretty slow even the million dollar ones.
But on curvy roads, a car with less power can keep up. Hard to beat 4 tire contact patches.
Kept the ZREXER handle as my forum name.

 

[Quisp]

Thought so. Zrxoa member?

 

[dubtastic]

So... I've been going back and forth on the Mountune MP215 kit. On one hand I like the warranty retention and the addition of the tune, but I can't help but feel that the intake is a bit underwhelming when compared to offerings from Mishimoto and Cobb. I'm actually a bit put off by the lower intake hosing that seems to have been an afterthought. Can one get the MP215 kit and bypass the Mountune intake?

 

[AzNightmare]

So... I've been going back and forth on the Mountune MP215 kit. On one hand I like the warranty retention and the addition of the tune, but I can't help but feel that the intake is a bit underwhelming when compared to offerings from Mishimoto and Cobb. I'm actually a bit put off by the lower intake hosing that seems to have been an afterthought. Can one get the MP215 kit and bypass the Mountune intake?

http://www.mountuneusa.com/COBB-V3-Accessport-ECU-Flasher-Focus-ST-Fiesta-ST-p/ap3-for-001.htm

I'm not sure if this means you're buying just the Accessport with the mountune map installed.
You should double check if this route retains warranty though, because I think the AP also comes with COBB's standard maps, which I believe are supposed to void warranty if used...