MP215 - Impressions, Feedback, and Questions

[Zormecteon]

Warranties are for pussies.

For me, it's not just the warranty, but the knowledge that what has been done won't affect the durability of the car. I expect to have it for the next 20 years or more wanting it to be the last car I ever buy.

 

[DaveG99]

Sometimes I think I want to get the mountune tune to save my warranty on my 2016 fist. But then sometimes I think F it! Just get whatever you want and screw the warranty. Its a battle that constantly goes on in my head.

So far Im stock with only a few parts added. Boomba bov adapter, led headlights, dead pedal. Plan on getting mbrp exhaust soon. But all these are easily reversible and really shouldn't affect a warranty if the dealer has any sense.

 

[IrishST]

Sometimes I think I want to get the mountune tune to save my warranty on my 2016 fist. But then sometimes I think F it! Just get whatever you want and screw the warranty. Its a battle that constantly goes on in my head.

So far Im stock with only a few parts added. Boomba bov adapter, led headlights, dead pedal. Plan on getting mbrp exhaust soon. But all these are easily reversible and really shouldn't affect a warranty if the dealer has any sense.

I'm of the same mind. My Mountune springs will be here tomorrow along with the RMM and I have my new wheels and tires sitting in the garage. The only thing missing from my initial mod plans is the AP and I just can't decide what I want to do. In the past three weeks I've put the MP215 and the standalone AP in my cart at Mountune like 20 times only to remove it because I just don't know what I'd rather do. It also doesn't help that my Ford dealer is clueless about the MP215 kit and doesn't want to commit to installing it. Such a piss easy install too so it kills me to have to rely on a dealer for it...

 

[LedRobster]

I'm of the same mind. My Mountune springs will be here tomorrow along with the RMM and I have my new wheels and tires sitting in the garage. The only thing missing from my initial mod plans is the AP and I just can't decide what I want to do. In the past three weeks I've put the MP215 and the standalone AP in my cart at Mountune like 20 times only to remove it because I just don't know what I'd rather do. It also doesn't help that my Ford dealer is clueless about the MP215 kit and doesn't want to commit to installing it. Such a piss easy install too so it kills me to have to rely on a dealer for it...

I think they've updated it to any ASE certified mechanic can install. I'd double check with Mountune though.

 

[Jking]

It also doesn't help that my Ford dealer is clueless about the MP215 kit and doesn't want to commit to installing it.

Yea, the dealer I bought the car from did want to do it. I found a dealer that had never done one, but seemed enthusiastic to try something new and had a very low install price. They did the MP215 and Intercooler at same time. They seemed to do a good job and I haven't any issues. It does say in the Ford Racing paper work ASE mechanic or Ford dealer for warranty.
Even though it is locked to the vin you can still get the MP215 flashed to the MR230 if you ever want to go that route ($225). I also heard you can trade in your 215 AP for a regular Mountune AP for $450, but I have no idea if this true.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

I think that you can't reverse back your mountune AP tune is silly. I looked at both the kits and went another route. A fraction of the cost and I can go back if I want on my own. No need to bring anything into the stealership. Had a clunking short after I bought it....the dealer dimissed me and my claim. Went out bought a different RMM ....never been happier. Bought a drop in high flow air filter from green filters...bought a air snorkel from velossatech. ..another great buy.....then a short throw adapter from Boomba and a BOV ADAPTER....again never been happier. And I can reverse it myself if I want. I've been down the modding route with another vehicle hence my Avatar. After learning from that I like to be able to reverse things on my not having to depend on the stealership to charge me for it.

 

[bobjob]

No trading in the mtune. You just buy another ap. That's what I did

 

[Mosquito1177]

Hi friends can someone tell me how much did Ford Dealer charge for installing MP215

 

[Mosquito1177]

Mp 215

Is this kit worth it also can anyone tell me how much to get it installed at Ford Dealer thanks

 

[IrishST]

I think that you can't reverse back your mountune AP tune is silly. I looked at both the kits and went another route. A fraction of the cost and I can go back if I want on my own. No need to bring anything into the stealership. Had a clunking short after I bought it....the dealer dimissed me and my claim. Went out bought a different RMM ....never been happier. Bought a drop in high flow air filter from green filters...bought a air snorkel from velossatech. ..another great buy.....then a short throw adapter from Boomba and a BOV ADAPTER....again never been happier. And I can reverse it myself if I want. I've been down the modding route with another vehicle hence my Avatar. After learning from that I like to be able to reverse things on my not having to depend on the stealership to charge me for it.

I definitely agree with what you're saying. I also can't stand the notion of paying anywhere from 1.5 to 3 hours of $100/hr+ labor to install something I can do myself without breaking a sweat... What I do like, however, is keeping my warranty 100% intact and not having to worry about what's going to happen if a manufacturing defect causes my engine to blow up. If I do my own tune they will see the ECU modifications and try to deny my claim, even if my tune had nothing to do with it. I can then fight them on it, but it's a battle that I would rather avoid.

On the other hand, I could flash and have 100,000 trouble free miles and not have to worry about it. It's just one of those things, you never know.

 

[marc89gti]

Mountune says it should take one hour for a dealer to install, any more than 1.5hrs and your getting ripped off.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

I definitely agree with what you're saying. I also can't stand the notion of paying anywhere from 1.5 to 3 hours of $100/hr+ labor to install something I can do myself without breaking a sweat... What I do like, however, is keeping my warranty 100% intact and not having to worry about what's going to happen if a manufacturing defect causes my engine to blow up. If I do my own tune they will see the ECU modifications and try to deny my claim, even if my tune had nothing to do with it. I can then fight them on it, but it's a battle that I would rather avoid.

On the other hand, I could flash and have 100,000 trouble free miles and not have to worry about it. It's just one of those things, you never know.

I don't think a dealer can tell if the ecm or pcm....whatever you wanna call it has been used with say a cobb Ap. It can be reverted back to stock whenever you want. We also have the Magnuson act to help with any written warranty by the manufacturer. Good luck trying to prove that a RMM caused a motor to shoot a rod through the wall of the block in court. The warranty BS is only as good as the company that offers it and from what I've seen and heard ford isn't much of a giver on warranty items that have clearly failed because of design. But I could go on all day about this crap of he said she said. Good thing I can revert anything I want back to stock.

 

[Dsquared46]

Hi friends can someone tell me how much did Ford Dealer charge for installing MP215

My dealership refused to install the MP215 and referred me to another one 40 miles away. At first they quoted me 2.5 hours and $200. When they found out that the aluminum box had to be installed they told me it would take 4.5 hrs. and $315. I left there and contacted the guys from Mountune who stated that it takes less than a hr. to install. They suggested I do it myself and find someone who is ASE certified to sign off on it. Duh! I have a friend who works at a place that has done tons of mods for my Durango and SRT8 Challenger. He said "It's only an air intake. Do it yourself and I'll sign off on it." Went home immediately. Took me 45 mins., including the tune. Forget the stealerships if you can. Ridiculously easy install.

 

[Quisp]

I don't think a dealer can tell if the ecm or pcm....whatever you wanna call it has been used with say a cobb Ap. It can be reverted back to stock whenever you want. We also have the Magnuson act to help with any written warranty by the manufacturer. Good luck trying to prove that a RMM caused a motor to shoot a rod through the wall of the block in court. The warranty BS is only as good as the company that offers it and from what I've seen and heard ford isn't much of a giver on warranty items that have clearly failed because of design. But I could go on all day about this crap of he said she said. Good thing I can revert anything I want back to stock.

I just took my car in for a coolant level low problem. No visible leak. They pressure tested and no trouble found. They connected my reverted back to stock car and detected that it had been flashed. Service manager informed me if it's a head gasket or engine damage it's on me. Watch the video of the lawyer explain Magnuson act someone posted here.

 

[TyphoonFiST]

I definitely agree with what you're saying. I also can't stand the notion of paying anywhere from 1.5 to 3 hours of $100/hr+ labor to install something I can do myself without breaking a sweat... What I do like, however, is keeping my warranty 100% intact and not having to worry about what's going to happen if a manufacturing defect causes my engine to blow up. If I do my own tune they will see the ECU modifications and try to deny my claim, even if my tune had nothing to do with it. I can then fight them on it, but it's a battle that I would rather avoid.

On the other hand, I could flash and have 100,000 trouble free miles and not have to worry about it. It's just one of those things, you never know.

There is a big disconnect between Ford and most dealers. Some of the tunes that are out there are better than the mountune AP. Ford does have a large stockpile of lawyers thats a fact. In the end they can void your power train warranty but not window regulators...tie rod ends....wheel bearings.....A/c components. From what I've gathered the engines in these aren't too expensive anyways. In the end there is no such thing as bullet proof safe from any manufacturer. So take it or leave it I guess

 

[Zormecteon]

I'm glad I did it (or rather had it done). I think it's about 3 hours or less shop time. Multiply by local shop rate? $100/hr? A good shop should be able to do it in 2 hours maybe? I had the complete intercooler upgrade (silicone hoses, charge pipe, etc amd the quick shift) done at the same time so I can't give an exact for the MP215 alone. If your thinking of the Quick Shift (and you SHOULD BE) it's cheaper to have it done at the same time because you have to remove the airbox anyway.

 

[Chuckable]

Is this kit worth it also can anyone tell me how much to get it installed at Ford Dealer thanks

Only you can decide if it's worth it. I have it and like it, but if you ever plan on going to a custom tune then save your money and go the custom tune route from the beginning since the MP215 tune is locked and the Accessport that comes with it can only be used to monitor data. If you want a nice upgrade in power that's warranty-friendly, and don't ever expect to do custom tuning or using non-Mountune parts, then it's a nice package.

I paid about $130 or so for the install at my local dealer. That's for the airbox and tune only.

What Zormecteon said about the short shift kit is spot on.

 

[Jking]

Hi friends can someone tell me how much did Ford Dealer charge for installing MP215

$400 to install MP215 + intercooler. Another dealer wanted $900 for both. Car was at the dealer 2 days. It's not the greatest value compared to Cobb and I really didn't want the CAI.

 

[IrishST]

$400 to install MP215 + intercooler. Another dealer wanted $900 for both. Car was at the dealer 2 days. It's not the greatest value compared to Cobb and I really didn't want the CAI.

No, unless of course you melt a piston or throw a rod and need to get the warranty repair done. With the Cobb they will fight you, with this you have nothing to worry about and the $5,000+ repair isn't going to come out of your pocket.

After putting a ton of thought into it, I really think I'm going MP215 once the 2016 confirmed version releases. It's more expensive and I can't reflash at a whim, but it keeps my 5/60 powertrain warranty intact and gives me 3/36 for any damage that might have been caused by the tune itself. It is peace of mind to know that I can have stage 1 performance without throwing my warranty out the window should anything happen. I could buy the AP and flash it myself and then drive for 50,000 miles without a single issue, however there could be something in the motor at this very moment that isn't quite right and causes catastrophic failure at 1,500 miles and that's a chance I just don't want to take on a financed car. The thought of paying monthly on my car while it is down with a blown engine that I don't have a spare $5k plus laying around for doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

If I keep the car long term and pay it off.. different story, sky is the limit, but until such a time I'd rather pay the extra money and keep my warranty nice and crispy fresh.

 

[rrpostal]

I went with the Mountune MR230 kit from my dealer, like it sounds the above person did, as well. It's been a while since I had a new car with a warranty, and I was pretty happy that my dealer worked with me. They are very mod friendly and I feel great having their support. But the dealer closest to my home was not at all mod friendly and seem pretty incompetent, in general. I'm more than happy to drive 30 minutes, for what I've gotten. So I'd say it kind of depends. As for the MP215... it seems like a lot of money for what it is. It's just an intake with a severely limited accessport. What I got could be done better and cheaper using different components, but I paid somewhat for the piece of mind that my dealer will be comfortable with my engine warranty. I also suggest putting on a rear motor mount, at least. i have no idea why Mountune does not include it with their popular mod kits. It seems like a huge oversight. The difference between stock and where my car is now, is night and day. But I can't say what the MP215 would be by itself. But I'd imagine you can feel it. You could spend the money on a Cobb AP3 and an intake and tune for less, with better results. But it would depend on your dealer how much they would stand behind it (you could always return the MAP to stock before bringing it to them). Some people are completely anti-mountune. But I just think they are safe for Ford to feel confident with, if a little expensive. I'm not complaining.